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  Yogimeister  
הצטרף: 28 יול' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שני 30 יול',01 08:47   
Hi,
I'm about to buy some NF monitors for my new music Platform (PC).

I only found one store that specializes in music so far ... and what they stocked (In my price range) were the EVENT PS-6 (For 4,900NIS)
(With the whole rear-wall phase cancelation thingy ...)

Can anyone recommend a better alternative for the same price range ...
and especialy some music shops that deal with monitors of this price range ?? (So I can get my ears to do the shopping ...(

Thanx
Yogi
Muze
הצטרף: 11 יול' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שני 30 יול',01 22:25   
i would recomend
trying the tannoy reveals
passive about 2k nis
active about 4k nis
(not sure i didnt buy my pair in israel)

i think sontronics sell them

i personaly love them they are good for small rooms (nearfield)

just listen and youll understand what im talking about

i get no surprises from them. they tend to point out mixing problems verry nicely

chekem out
(ps. dont try any other tannoy speakers they s....k)

Vibez!
Muze


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E.T
הצטרף: 19 יונ' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 04:57   
one thing to say
DONT BAY 6INCH SPEKERS i had the tannoy reveal and i'm telling you
a 6 inch speker can't do a good enough gob for mixing
BUT ther will always be ppl how work with a home shit speker that will manage to get a good mix
or the ones that knows ther speker so well that they know exactly in the mix so it will sound good
i recomend going for a 8 inch speker
like the tannoy system 800
or the event 20/20
these 2 i know frome experienc but there are more that ppl here can segust
it will be more expensiv then 6 inch but it's worth the mony
have anice one
E.T
E.T
הצטרף: 19 יונ' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 05:01   
:razz:
forgot chek sentronics thay import tannoy
subzero
הצטרף: 22 מאי 01
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מיקום: אולפני סטורם
הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 06:29   
דבר נוסף.
אם אתה רוכש לבסוף מוניטורים פאסיביים, הייתי ממליץ לרכוש מגבר ייעודי ולא להשתמש במגבר הסטריאו שברשותך, הסאונד שונה ל ח ל ו ט י ן.
ניתן לרכוש מגברים ייעודיים למטרה זו במחירים "יחסית" זולים.
מקווה שזה עוזר :smile:
דיגיטל-אנלוג
הצטרף: 28 יול' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 06:32   
מה מצב ?!
אי-אפשר למקסס טוב עם 6" ?
אני לא מומחה (באמת שלא) אבל אם אינני טועה ברוב די מוחלט של אולפני ההקלטות בעולם משמתמשים ב-Yamaha NS-10 שיש להם וופר 6 או 6.5 אינץ' ... הלא כן ?

סתם תהיה ! :-)

יום העשר !
Muze
הצטרף: 11 יול' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 08:09   
y0y0

well i guess its a bit hard to buy 8 inch monitors that are nearfield
most of them are midfield..

as you gather its a bunch of crap ofcourse not to buy 6 inch and so on...

it realy depends on the size of your room.

most of the best selling albums were made of 6 ich monitors.
most of the professionals who mix in BIG studios will do most of the mix on 6 inch monitors and only some refference checking on the big ones.

by the way room acoustics are just as important as good monitors.

best solution is to take monitors home to check out and do some mixes on.
then you will know wich one is right for you
im more than happy with my tannoy reveals they are like the yamaha ns10 in a way (whatever sounds good on them will sound goo anywhere)
only they have a low end and they are not so painfull.

and i repeat
do not buy any other tannoy speakers (system 800 s....ks ass theres something wierd going on with the low frequencies)

i had good results with the yamaha NS10 although its a pain working with them

i had good results with event 20/20

i also got good results from quested monitors (now these baybies are fine!)

and i mixed once on KRK something (dont remember the model) wich had also verry nice results

just listen


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makes music not war
Muze
הצטרף: 11 יול' 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 08:19   
y0

well i guess its a bit hard to buy 8 inch monitors that are nearfield
most of them are midfield..

as you gather its a bunch of crap ofcourse not to buy 6 inch and so on...

it realy depends on the size of your room.

most of the best selling albums were made of 6 ich monitors.
most of the professionals who mix in BIG studios will do most of the mix on 6 inch monitors and only some refference checking on the big ones.

by the way room acoustics are just as important as good monitors.

best solution is to take monitors home to check out and do some mixes on.
then you will know wich one is right for you
im more than happy with my tannoy reveals they are like the yamaha ns10 in a way (whatever sounds good on them will sound goo anywhere)
only they have a low end and they are not so painfull.

and i repeat
do not buy any other tannoy speakers (system 800 s....ks ass theres something wierd going on with the low frequencies)

i had good results with the yamaha NS10 although its a pain working with them

i had good results with event 20/20

i also got good results from quested monitors (now these baybies are fine!)

and i mixed once on KRK something (dont remember the model) wich had also verry nice results

just listen


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>>==--MuZe--==<<
Artist,Producer,Synthesist, crezym0n
makes music not war
Zooot
S.Supporter
הצטרף: 19 מאי 01
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הודעה פורסם: שלישי 31 יול',01 18:07   
Wow, hold on a sec…
Sound arriving at ears is a room/speaker/amp combination.
Just like an engine/gear/body on a car.
It makes no sense mounting a V8 engine on a Ford Fiesta and using a Porche 911 gear ratio.
I suggest learning the room curve 1st , which is the most expensive element to control.
This is a “bottom feeder’s” solution, in the big studios we do it in a different way…
Put in any pair of speakers, the bigger the better, and lis10 2 the low end.
Analyze (using an analyzer or measure tones with a mic).
Is the low end boosted? At what fq does it peak?
Rotate position 90 degrees (use the width of the room instead of it’s length) and try again. Choose the speaker’s position opting frequency response and image clarity.
In small rooms, speaker placement is near walls, boosting the LF content even more.
Reducing LF can benefit from keeping away from corners.
A LF boost can be treated by a large free vibrating surface like cardboard, placed at wavelength’s critical summing point.
Relax, we’re not going to calculate now… Simply move the surface around, while playing heavy LF music. When U reach the point, U will feel the surface vibrates, along with the bass. LF will b reduced due to LF energy moving the surface.

When room is opted 4 response, bring in several pairs of speakers and amps and lis10. Beg, borrow or steal, but audition the more speakers/amp combinations U can.

Low end takes time (= room length) 2 develop, so big speakers will b harder 2 control. ~6” speakers would b the logical choice.

I love the NS-10Ms, (not the “Studio” crap) cuz I know them well. They’re like a midrange magnifying glass.
In small rooms the NS-10M, a bookshelf speaker, will benefit from the LF boost.
They’re gr8 4 rock, 4 LF oriented music I’d choose something else.
Cons:
1) They’re discontinued.
2) LF is hard 2 figure out, and should b checked on a second pair of monitors.
3) They get loose real quick, and elements should b replaced often. Touch and force (gently :-) ) the woofer inside and let go. Woofer should bounce back elastically. If not, it should b replaced.

Nowadays I use the Tannoy PBM 6.5 I already own, my TV set 4 mono ref, and the JBL LSR-28Ps.
The 28s r some of the best monitors I’ve ever used. I can hear the drummer’s pubic hair moving… (YUCK). They’re bi-amped active, 200W, and by no means 2 b used in small rooms. Image clearing up only @ 2 meters+, with dip switches selected 4 LF reduction in my room (5.5 x 5 meters).

The JBL 25 don’t s.u.c.k either.
The best small monitor I’ve heard in a small room was the Dynaudio.

Peace,
Zooot

  Yogimeister  
הצטרף: 28 יול' 01
הודעות: 35
הודעה פורסם: רביעי 01 אוג',01 10:04   
Wow ... Thanx.

But ....
Are there any stores in Israel that might stock these ??

(I only found Music Shop on Dizingoff)

Yogi
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